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Offline the old trucker

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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #150 on: April 23, 2010, 09:03:06 am »

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  Grfishmaker there is almost 2" adjustment at the end & another 2" at the nuts that hold the casing in place. I think that could give you a short amount of travel at the trans & long travel at the stick. I'll let you know for sure later.
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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #151 on: April 28, 2010, 04:48:38 pm »

  REMEMBER THAT BEATLES SONG CALLED " HELP ". Well that's what I need now, & lots of it.. 

  Gror do you have your rad mounted in the stock location ?? How did you get the top rad hose to work..

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In the pic below you can see where the rad is situated. I looked at Grors pics & his rad looks like it's 3-4" ahead of mine. I'm wondering if my engine has to go farther ahead or just lift the rad up a bit.
 
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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #152 on: April 28, 2010, 05:03:04 pm »

 

Thought you might like to see how I am going about hooking up my trans linkage. The top two pics show the before & the bottom two show how it will look when I get it welded.

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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #153 on: April 28, 2010, 07:18:59 pm »
OT, can't you just cut off some of the pipe on the rad so that you can just use a 90 degree rubber rad hose to tie them together. Or am I maybe missing what you are asking.
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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #154 on: April 29, 2010, 05:31:36 am »

  The problem is the pipe on the rad is alot BIGGER ROUND than the pipe on the goose neck. On Grors it looks like he has 2 different size hoses on his. Also I think the rad has to go a bit higher & I think it will interfere with the rad door closing. Right now my rad is back past the back axle. I noticed on Grors it looks like his is ahead of the axle.
  I think if I keep the rad where it is now, I can leave the fan off the engine & find an electric fan to fit in place.
 
  I'm open to any suggestions anyone has. I need HELP !!

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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #155 on: April 29, 2010, 07:34:09 am »
take it to a rad shop they can install whatever you want on the rad   Woodsy
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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #156 on: April 29, 2010, 07:42:02 am »

  Thanks Woodsy. But I still think my engine may have to be moved ahead some so the rad will clear the rad door & the fan. The rad is an original one for the bomber, I think.
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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #157 on: April 30, 2010, 07:40:50 am »
It looks like you may want to take it to a rad shop anyway OT, to replace the filler on top so you can use a 14 lb cap. I don't think the 300 likes to run cold. Like woodsy says the changing of the top spout is an easy job for them and not likely too expensive.
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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #158 on: May 01, 2010, 07:03:49 am »

   Thanks Cranman. The rad is original. I have to wait till Tuesday for the rad man to come back to work, so I will go out & measure up a few things till then. I am looking for a 6-7 blade fan that can bolt directly to the pulley, giving me a bit more room. I think I should have put the strips that hold the rad in place before putting in the motor, allowing me to get a more accurate measurement. I guess we'll mark this one down as due to lack of experience. I hope I don't have to move the engine back. 
   
  Here's an email I got from one of our members :
OT, I am rebuilding a wood bug as well.The rad is back in its original location and it 4 in from the centre of rear axel to the inside face of the rad.You would want about 1 in.of clearance from fan to rad.Dont use an elec fan as it will not cool .I know a guy that tried that.I have a narrow ga steel bug that I put a 300 ford wi a c6 auto in it and I have heating issues with it. You want to stick with a 6 or seven blade fan to move air...if able get the largest diam damper pully you can find to speed up fan and water pump .Iwill try send you what I started with when I started this progect.Hope this helps.

  It helps alot my friend. This is what I need, all the info I can get. Thanks again !!
                                                                                         
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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #159 on: May 01, 2010, 10:07:46 am »
I took my rad to a rad shop and had it dipped and pressure tested, he then changed the top so it would hold pressure instead of spewing all over the place for about 100.00 ,works great now. I did not move my rad but I did have to shorten the top port and make an adaptor to fit 2inch to 1 1/2 inch rad hoses together  . I wanted to change out the top port to 1 1/2 inch but the old one was cast and the rad man said he would have to melt down my rad to get it out . The mods I done are working fine anyways, all I need to do now is to install the huge electric pusher fan I have.
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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #160 on: May 01, 2010, 12:09:52 pm »

   Thanks for the info & the pic Gror. I am pretty sure I am going to have to move the engine back for clearance for the rad. I don't think it will be much trouble to do that. There are 4 bolts for the motor mounts, plus 2 for the bracket that holds the shifter cable in place & the 2 on the trans.
   In the pic below you'll see the mount that holds the trans in place. It is a piece of 2" channel. I'm thinking of welding a piece of 5/16" plate on top where the mount would sit. It would be 7" wide by 7-8" long(toward the front of the machine) I will drill 2 new holes for the bracket. I think that should hold everything in place. Almost forgot, I'll have to cut out a section of exhaust between the flex & the resonator to keep everything lined up with the outlet on the side. 
 
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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #161 on: May 01, 2010, 07:26:50 pm »
the rads on a wood body is different than a steel one the top tank is hand made like on a b7 on a steel one its factory made . the rad core is also different on the wood one it looks like the core of older ford the steel one is more like today style. the rad you are putting in looks like it came from a steel body hope this can help you
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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #162 on: May 03, 2010, 04:10:23 am »
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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #163 on: May 03, 2010, 04:40:34 am »
  Marcdds I have a rad from an old Dodge power wagon ( on the right in the first pic) that looks 2-3" lower than the bomber one. It will fit, all I have to do is cut off the mounting tabs & tack on new flat pieces as the core in this one is close to 22 1/2" wide. I will try that one out before moving the motor. The rad on the right in the second pic is the third one that I got with those 2 bombers yesterday.

Anybody got suggestions ??

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Re: OT'S 47-51 ??? Rebuild ??
« Reply #164 on: May 03, 2010, 12:51:01 pm »
lot's of treasures probably still unfound OT...
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